Fusion is nuclear power. Transmission offers the same zoom and range boost as Signal, but has a worse handling penalty, so it falls to third. The Bolded Perk/Perks in each slot mean that I recommend using them the most. I threw the last one I got in my vault not caring about the roll but to use as my collection piece. If you plan to use Erentil as a secondary, or spend a lot of time with it stowed, this is the best perk. [quote]It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. To top it off, the Backup Plan perk which makes fusions so lethal in PvP is being changed to mirror the impact of rapid-fire fusion rifles as well as their charge time. PvP, limited maps and stuff and a meta that's been more or less the same few guns for over a year now. A woman conceives twins through artificial insemination, then meets the man of her dreams on the very same day. Put a counterbalance mod on it and its like a laser beam. You will need to practice and get comfortable with the weapon before you can dominate. I agree Rangefinder is a great perk, especially if you didn't get a high-zoom scope in the first slot. Pros and Cons are determined by comparing weapons within the same class, not by all weapons in general, and not by only the weapons within the archetype. This is a joke. Erentil, Elatha, even Wizend Rebuke and the new Gallant Charge can all map people. And refer above for Backup Plan. [quote] It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. It allows people to primary fusions and gets very annoying to go against but it isn’t as broken as backup plan. Erentil is overpowered? Erentil - Backup Plan, Snapshot, medium zoom, Ionized Epicurean - Backup Plan, Tap the Trigger, Particle Repeater, Small Bore Still trying out different mods on them though. These are strictly my opinions, so I'm very aware that a lot of people will probably disagree with them. But Spam Cannons are stupid easy to use and incredibly bloated in pretty much every aspect other than damage falloff. But especially slow fusions are about positioning and brain skill, since they're super slow and if improperly played, you're done for. if you get quickdraw backup plan welp everyones fucked. Timeline's Vertex is a returning Adaptive Frame Fusion Rifle to Destiny 2 Season of the Worthy. Under Pressure - If you're good at ammo management and comfortable keeping no more than 2-3 slots in the mag, this is a great perk, Moving Target - If you don't want to slide, or worry about having a half empty mag, this offers a great passive boost for any player. [quote] A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. Novice of Experience FR Player? A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. Nice Dust Rock. I'd be interested in seeing your testing on that. But in survival, don't you play to win? Erentil FR4: Erentil is a ... You'll want Firmly Planted/Rangefinder if you plan on hitting people from range, while Snapshot Sights/Backup Plan is ideal for close-quarters combat. Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. Nerfing a viable gun out of viability would just make the META more oppressive, the game less varied, and the game less fun. Report Add more answer options. I still stand by my argument to nerf erentil, if not it's range, backup plan for sure. The back up plan perk isn’t even a good perk for dedicated fusion rifle users. Grants reduced charge time and increased handling speed for a short time immediately after swapping to this weapon. Fusions like Erentil got their range nerfed. In what sounds like an attack on the Erentil FR4 and any children it may bear, fusion rifles are getting nerfs to range-range violence and the Backup Plan perk. Charge time is now set to match the Rapid-Fire's sub-archetype * 0.85 while active. It’s does not have a large usage in survival. Cons - Slow charge rate. Edit: I was extremely upset at the time of this posting because I faced 3 erentils and a jotunn in survival and also faced it twice again a couple of matches later. Edit If there are no bolded perks, it means that I feel any of the listed perks are fine to use in the slot. It's most popular in PvP but the right roll also has its place in PvE. It may not be visible in wall testing, but it's definitely there against live Guardians, and that's something TTT has that RF does not. Classes are broken down into Impact Archetypes. [/quote] Loading, please wait. #9. 1/22/2021 2:37:43 AM, Download on the AppStore And the perk, "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. Timeli I’ve got this roll and have racked up over 300 kills in the past two weeks. Over 20K crucible kills with it. I love it! I prefer it over my Erentil.. MP50005. [quote]Edit: I was extremely upset at the time of this posting because I faced 3 erentils and a jotunn in survival and also faced it twice again a couple of matches later. [quote]Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. Erentil FR4 has a very long charge time of 860, but does very high damage. The gun is balanced and serves a role in countering the meta loadout of shotgun + handcannon. CruciblePlaybook is a subreddit for discussing strategies and techniques for Destiny's Crucible. It's easily the most deadly perk combo if you take advantage of backup plan on every shot. You are losing a considerably large player base because of this and I hope you take into consideration to look into this and give it the tweaking it deserves. I have under pressure and tap the trigger and it's better in my opinion. Nice Symmetry. There is no data to support a nerf of Erentil or other fusion rifles. There is no need to try and be over dramatic and try and claim the game is losing players because of a gun that isn’t overpowered and doesn’t need a nerf. Matchmaking sucks, plain and simple. Someone is around a corner, you see them on your radar and back up so you don’t get shotgunned, they slide and swap at the same time vaporizing you in .4 seconds. For all the numbers and a full list of guns, the Weapon Stats Spreadsheet has you covered. Backup Plan. [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. So nice. This is my "main" erentil, nearing 8k kills with it so far and its downright filthy in crucible. [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. If you juke and use your vertical space, you may live if they don't see you fast enough. How to obtain: Found in the tower purchased through the gunsmith or farmed at the Menagerie. Low reload speed. [/quote] I have a PvE Erentil with Rampage and hip-fire grip that feels pretty good. Erentil FR4 - Void fusion rifle. Do that and you won’t have anything to complain about anymore. Backup Plan might have been nerfed, but Erentil FR4 is still one of the best Fusion Rifles in Destiny 2. Create Fireteam Stop charging into fusions, or back up. [quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. They're losing a large part of the playerbase because they aren't properly... What's the word? Bungie, don't take this guy's advice. Erentil is the highest impact one you can get, drops from Banshee, so does the Bone Structure. Also, wish it was taken it out of managerie and make it only available via Gunsmith. It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. lnSilico. What we have to remember is that it's not just bolt spread we're looking at here, but also the increase in accuracy which makes the bolts more likely to hit the target. They won't because the stats they use as a basis for nerfing weapons show PvP is overpopulated with Shotguns and Snipers, not Fusions. This except get one with back up plan because it’s so easy to abuse in PvP I have an Erentil with Backup Plan and Snapshot. I have an under pressure/high impact reserves and I love it. I don't have one though. A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. Tap the Trigger - Like Moving Target, an amazing passive boost to the gun that greatly increases accuracy and stability on the initial trigger pull (which for fusions is basically every trigger pull). We’re sure that this is the best price for Erentil-FR4 Fusion Rifle God Roll - … Same thing goes with low zoom sniper rifles with quickdraw/snapshot. Get it on Google play. Some of the possible rolls on this weapon are Firmly Planted and Backup Plan that will help you snipe or quickly drawn and charge your new fusion rifle to counter any close-ranged enemy. It is the gun I am maining at the moment. I have around 10k kills between my Erentils, and there's a reason you don't see novice players sharing those same clips. Very much depends. Nice Badlander. Liquid Coils gives you even more impact at the cost of a … By continuing to use this site, you agree to the updated policies documented at, {{client.users[message.memberFromId].displayName}}. Fusions are the tits, and the first weapon in pvp where i really feel i can push the skill ceiling with, landing kills that i should never have been able to hit. [quote]Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. The Beloved sniper rifle is highly sought after because Destiny veterans claim it is one of best snipers in the game and feels just like popular Destiny 1sniper rifles like LDR-5001. 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